Bonus Podcast #10: Jan. 8, 2020 - Scarlett Johansson Films (Ghost World, Lost in Translation, Don Jon, Her, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and Lucy)

[00:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everybody!

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to the Thumbuds Podcast. This is our 10th Bonus Show, made it 10, so not bad.

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And my name is Henry, and no Chloe this time around. She wanted to be here but was unable to.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But joining us once again for another bonus show is our friend Jacob Bowers.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello? Or Jacob number one as he's also known. So thanks for coming back on.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Finally made it.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And because of some of her big recent films like Marriage, Story and Jojo Rabbit, as well as I guess Avengers in game earlier this year,

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: we are going to be talking Scarlett Johansson, and we have six films of hers to talk about over the course of her career.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: This time we have Ghost World, Lost in Translation, Don Jon, Her, Captain America, The Winter Soldier, and Lucy.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So kind of a good mix of films of hers to talk about.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, she's my favorite actress, Jacob, but I don't know about you. We talked about Kristen Stewart last time.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And oh and first of all, if you did, if you have downloaded the show, thank you so much because it goes to help support the weekly show.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you get some downloads?

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We did. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah people seem to like it. So it's good.

[00:01:37] Yeah.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Jacob, what's your background with Scarlett Johansson, are you much of a fan?

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you?

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the first thing I was all around was Iron Man II.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Thank you. She was in that.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's where she first appeared as Black Widow.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And then proceeded to see her and all of those. I've seen under the skin.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Gosh.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: All the Marvel movies.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Of course.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: All the things we've listed here today.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. We'll scroll through Hanson for me. She's up there with my, she is my favorite actress.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say, I don't love everything she's in, but I think something about her is kind of stuck with me.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the first thing I saw her in was maybe match point, the Woody Allen movie or maybe...

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Avengers? I don't think it was that late in the movie.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, maybe it was the Black Dollyah, the Brian DePalma movie from, well, about early 2000s.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And I think that this decade, this past decade we just ended the 2010s.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's really blown everything out of the water. She's been in so many big movies as well as some really great indie movies.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think she's really grown as an actress in many ways.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm glad we're talking about her.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really wanted to see Jojo Rabbit.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean it's kind of my own fault.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was just waiting for it to come to Regal because I was like, I got this past, you know, go see it for free.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It never came to Regal. But it was at Red Cinema as like the whole time. I could have just gotten to see it.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But I didn't...

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good though. I think you'd like it a lot.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, should we jump in?

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Got plenty to talk about.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Start off with Ghost World, which that one came out in 2001.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a long time ago.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was like the 90s.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, early 2000s.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's directed by Terry Zwickoff.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So is it swig-off?

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Zwickoff?

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably is Y-Goff.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And it stars Thorne Birch, Scarlet Johansson, Steve Shemmy, Bob Balaban.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And those are kind of the few big names.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And the synopsis is with only the plan of moving in together after high school to unusually

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: devious friends seek direction in life.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: As a mere gag, they respond to a man's newspaper ad for a date.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Only to find it will greatly complicate their lives.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean?

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. You have to find out.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So this one made 8.8 million against a $7 million budget, so pretty small movie.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: However, it has become a bit of a cult film, like they released it on Criterion, which I got when it came out.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't hear too many people talk about it, but I know that there is a following for sure.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Jacob, had you seen this prior to us talking about doing the show or?

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No, the three that I watched last night.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I had not seen prior.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I had seen the first half hour of loss and translation.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I never went back to it.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I just forgot about it.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, we'll get to that.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But Ghost World, no, I hadn't seen it.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It was on my watch list, so I knew of it.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to see it.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Scarlet Johansson's real young in that movie.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Steve Bushemi is in this movie.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's always funny.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I had seen this one since I got the Criterion.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of blinded it because it was on sale and I was curious about it.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And having seen it twice now in the span of about a year, I don't think I'm really a fan of it.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very much of the time.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It has this late 90s, early 2000s cynicism to it.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They just hate everything and it's very mundane and washed out and dull looking.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Not intentionally, so, but it's just about everybody hating the world all the time.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that having missed it when it came out, I think that kind of makes it feel pretty

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: dated and not really in the best way all the time.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think sometimes it does, but as the movie goes on and gets a little tiring, I don't really

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: love Thoraburch.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's a little obnoxious.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I do like Scarlet Johansson although I think that similar to what we were talking about with

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris and Stewart, I think, sing where she goes as an actress, as her career progresses.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that this is a standout performance of hers.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, she was very young so I'm not blaming her totally for it, but I think in retrospect,

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's amazing in it.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I like her chemistry with Thoraburch but not, I think Steve who shimmy is the standout in this.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If there was to be one.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that it's pretty plotless and pretty narrativeless, which I like about it.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: However, I think that it does kind of bring up a question of, I don't really get why we're watching it.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really get a huge message from it.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, it did come out before a lot of recent coming of age comedies that may have been inspired by this,

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know but it just feels a little bit there done at this point.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So although, again, I can see the appeal if you saw when it came out, I could see how someone could be attached to it.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's like, I guess that's the problem with making movies that are reflective of the time that they're being made in.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_02]: What I mean, like, I feel like it's kind of the point of making movies, I don't know what I'm trying to say,

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like movies are usually reflective of the time that they come out in out of great.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: They reflect the world, you know, and the messages are usually about the real world.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But I agree that I think I would have had to see it in 2001 and have been of an age to understand and appreciate it to completely appreciate it.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I liked it. But I agree that it was a little hard to enjoy and of course in 2001 I was like six or seven.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was seven. I think.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So probably wasn't going to be watching this movie. Probably not.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, Skoda Johansson's not even the main character in this movie, she's like a sidekick.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the best friend.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think she works well on that role for this movie.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you said Steve Vishemi, he's always great.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love him and everything. His weird teeth.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's just always great.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just funny. Funny guy.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was also pretty young when this movie.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. Because he'd been doing some work with.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess he'd done Fargo a couple years prior to this and yet all the work with the comb brothers.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And even though I don't love the movie, I think that it does have a charm to it at times.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think the idea of this 18 year old or however old she is teaming up with this middle aged geeky guy to get him dates.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think his funny, I think which kind of happens is the story develops and that relationship is uncommon and different.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And something I haven't really seen much of before or even since then.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And that keeps it going and I think that I do like Scarlet Johansson's raspy voice, like young voice, which she hasn't lost in translation as well.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that she has an innocence to her which works.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if she always totally pulls off the high school cynicism that Thor Berch has that punk rock kind of take on the world kind of mentality.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But I still think she fits into the main triangle pretty well and I think it also has a good set of small characters that just pop in and out like the guy at the gas station with his shirt off, you know, who's like a like yeah the country guy.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fun and the world is well built.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just that by the end, I don't know if I totally loved the experience of being there or got that much out of it.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's pretty cleanly directed and I like the angle of these Steve Buschimey collecting records and the focus on music and how young impressionable person can be.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Their personality or taste can be so easily changed from one day to another like the Thor Berch has the green hair one day and then the next day she washes it out things like that.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And which totally happened in high school and college all the time, you know.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And well actually one thing with that do you think that the the scene where she dies her hair green in front of the mirror is a was the inspiration for Joker.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The same for Joker.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking me this perhaps.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know many people might disagree with this.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I think in spirit it reminds me of high fidelity.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah like teen spirit I guess.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like just that was the 90s I'm pretty sure.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah so a little bit of a different feel from the early 2000s but she doesn't want it so close to the 90s.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But I just felt like the same cynicism like existed.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And it just the whole time I was watching and I was like this just reminds me of movies like high fidelity and other just like early 2000s and 90s high school comedies.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Just sort of like he said plotless wacky, cynical probably relatable.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah people that went to high school in the 90s.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it does even feel similar to how high school still is.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: There's always that wanting to both rebel from everything but also be accepted in one way or the other.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and so I think that's something movie does pretty well.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah I would agree with that.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It fits into a genre or a form of that time for sure.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She knows they're remaking high fidelity.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Are they?

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like a TV series or something.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and with Scarlett Johansson I guess she had done the man who wasn't there around this time.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the same year.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't that.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and then.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we did. Yeah which I hadn't seen before that so those cool experience.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I guess she went on to do.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Girl with the Pearl Earing and Lost in Translation and the Black Dahlia and some other of those early films.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She didn't have a lot of noir films in her early career.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: She did.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think she fits in very well that just her natural look I think is good for that.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's also in the the SpongeBob Square Pants movie.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah as the King Neptune's daughter.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Great role. Great role.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That maybe that was the first movie I saw her in or or her voice at least.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly yeah that would be the first movie I saw her in just didn't know is her.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and then she went on to do the island as well with Michael Bay.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But anyways I.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They enjoy the.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: The 50s diner that they go to to meet Steve Bushimmy.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a big one.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It was my favorite scene.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and it is for everybody who's been in the high school which is most people I'm guessing.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: There is something about that dynamic that's just.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Hard to fully dislike and I think that.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No matter what like we're going to talk about with the Blake lively show which we'll I think we'll do at some point with accepted the one with just a long and Blake lively.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Just that fun wacky high school drama is really enjoyable to me at least not maybe not to everybody but I always have a soft spot for it.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it it it it it it's not a favorite of mine.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: For sure but I think there's definitely an argument as to why it's held in such high claim for some people so.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Just in long is interesting career yes.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's been showing up in some.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like every now and then I'll get sponsored ads on Facebook for these small little film studios that are just like.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And depending on the no one's ever heard of and all I've got trailer for some movie they've made and like just in long is his in it.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like oh yeah.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's all like john turtaro in one of them.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah that's like okay.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah just in long was in the.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The Kevin Smith movie a few years ago.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Tusc.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen that movie and I don't want to.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not great.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big Kevin Smith fan anyways but I'm not a huge fan of it.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny Dapp is really good at though.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I like.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Clerks.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That's about it.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know Kevin like chasing Amy I like chasing Amy Smith is just.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Not your thing.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I like the guy I just don't watch care for his movies.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: The most recent movie he made.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Well it's technically he the most recent one he made would have been the.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well like the sequel to Jay and Silent Bob or whatever.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The one before that.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: With hook his daughter in it.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yoga hosers.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah with with Lily rose dip.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I heard Johnny Dapp's daughter crazy.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not very good.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's even worse.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah crazy bad.

[00:18:05] Yeah.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else about ghost world?

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Um I know we talked about.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Not caring for it but I think everyone should watch it.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a influential movie.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think of that of the early 2000s and so I would agree with that.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I liked it.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of a.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: A sad movie.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah in many ways just because it's dealing with these high schoolers who are so.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Unsure of themselves and then also with Steve Buschime who is really struggling to just stay afloat.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know he has this big record collection and nobody really cares aside from people exactly like him.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And he can't really get dates or anything like that but.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There are still moments of happiness for sure,

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but it is kind of a a more dower movie than you might expect.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Not to say that that's a bad thing but it's not a totally feel good movie for sure.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I keep saying I liked it and then also saying I didn't care for it,

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but I mean that I don't it's hard for me to.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Actively dislike things when there aren't just like any immediately awful things about.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know I mean like yoga hosers or whatever.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like that's that's just bad.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but it's like this movie is not bad.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: No, oh no definitely not.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we should do a retro review of yoga hosers at some point.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm easily entertained and not very critical.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I can be critical when it's required of me,

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but generally just choose not to be because it's easier man.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's more fun.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Find that you're more satisfied when you're not critical.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You walk out of the theater and you just feel good.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Instead of just feeling you know sad disappointed.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you did with a rise of Skywalker?

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Check the out.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like that was a star was movie.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah things happen.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what most people are saying.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It was action.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It was exciting.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you know just want to see the lights hitters.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's hey that's fair.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: All right well out of five stars Jacob.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Um three three for me.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: All right well let's move on.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to a big film that people are just obsessed with which is

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Lost in translation which is came out in 2003

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and is written and directed by Sophia Coppola.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And along Scarlett Johansson it stars Bill Murray

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's kind of the,

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, Giovanni Rebisi as well and on Ephares.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Very briefly as well.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: This is I believe Jacob number two's favorite movie.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He loves it.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he loves Sophia Coppola as well.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And the synopsis is a faded movie star

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and an neglected young woman formed an unlikely bond

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: after crossing paths in Tokyo.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: This one made 119.7 million against a bunch of 4 million.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So pretty big hit for sure and was pretty widely acclaimed

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: critically and with audiences and it's definitely had a

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: shelf life over the years.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's one that I am constantly hearing from

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: best of the 2000s and is a favorite of many people like we just said.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You know we keep hearing all this stuff about theaters dying.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You know people not going to theaters anymore but I don't know.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like movies make more money these days.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm always hearing about

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: the latest movie just hit a billion dollars, you know.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's like I think

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: not to get too off track but I think

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: it's almost select movies that are making that money

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and then it's a ton or not making any at all.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the middle budget movies kind of dying, you know.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean family movies.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but there are still plenty of movies that are making

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: yet tons of money so that's for sure.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow lost in translation this movie I got to

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: ask you.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Is similar to ghost world kind of late although I saw

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: this one maybe in college.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think probably because of Jacob Swafford told me to more than likely.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like it a fair bit.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it as much as some people do but I still think

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a very experiential

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: soothing for lack of a better word film that

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think exhibits a lot of suffice best qualities in terms of

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: a location feeding someone's personality and motivation

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and as well as a story that it when it ends,

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: it has the characters reflecting on what's just happened

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and so then therefore it kind of makes you do the same thing

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and similar to that with the blingering which we did on the show

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: the regular show where these people are robbing all of these

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: or burglarizing all of these houses and then they're caught at the end

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're having to reflect on what's just happened.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So she does those two qualities very well

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's very much a signature part of her style

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and it being very plotless.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a movie for lonely people right?

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It is yet.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's quite lonely.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's...

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I like Sophia.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe I think it's one of those...

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I won't say it's a rare case but

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you know a lot of celebrity children will go on to do what their parents do,

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: whether that be acting, directing, writing

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know it doesn't always work out.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it just feels like they had the door left open for them

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and just kind of rode the success

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but then some people actually prove that they deserve it

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think Sophia is a powerhouse director

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: just like Francis Ford.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't say I love Sophia Coppola all the time

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think whether you like it or not, she is an actor for sure

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's had an impact in many ways

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and more so than a lot of other directors

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and she is still on that no matter what she does

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to watch it just because it is nice to see someone

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: so...

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: confident in their own style

[00:25:21] and...

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this one

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: makes sense as to why this is a favorite amongst many Coppola fans

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it has just enough of the experiential side

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: but also it has that...

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: relatable feeling or question of...

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: is it worth it to...

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: inter in a doomed romance or a relationship of some kind

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: by the end of the movie?

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it...

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and then also just having these moments in time?

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it worth it to do something even though you may...

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_01]: it may not always last

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that yeah, as you said it

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: dealing with loneliness as well

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because they're both in this completely foreign place

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: they don't really know anyone

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and they just latch on to each other

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're both at certain places

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and their lives that are very open-ended

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: where a Scarlet Johansson is...

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: who the sun's out

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlet Johansson is young

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and trying to figure out what she wants to do with her life

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: whereas Bill Murray is towards the end of his career

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and is kind of seen as a...

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: almost as a joke

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah, it doesn't have much

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: self-worth either

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and they help inject new life

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and to be each other

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_01]: through both...

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say friendship

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and then possible romantic affection as well

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: by the end

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: She's not really into her husband?

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, who were husband?

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, played by Giovanni Rebisi

[00:27:01] Yeah

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That... that angle is very...

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty timeless, I think

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and very relatable

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I know, I suppose it's a how much comedy

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: is injected into this movie as well

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: because I definitely laughed at a few points

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's the...

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Pre-traumatic

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: There's the Rat Pack photo shoot

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: you know with Bill Murray, which is very funny

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think one thing about that scene

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: actually, in terms of the direction

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: is they make the...

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: snap of the camera really, really loud

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and it kind of feeds that

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: aggravation of having to sit there

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: with these people who you don't even really understand

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: what they're saying

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and having this loud flash

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: hit you over and over and over again

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and you can see just how

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: tiring that would be for someone in Bill Murray's position

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: especially since he doesn't really care at all about it

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: he feels like a complete idiot doing it

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Bill Murray, I don't know where here to talk about

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Scourge, I had said that

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That's okay

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But Bill Murray, always like seeing him in

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: dramatic roles

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Like attitude, yeah

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: There's... there's actually a lot of

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: actors who are sort of pigeonholed into comedy

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that get their chance to do

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: dramatic roles and really just like prove

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that they've got so much range

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know, like I can think

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: a few Adam Sandler

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Will Ferrell

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Um...

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, stranger to fiction, great movie

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah?

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, on cut gems which I just saw with Adam Sandler

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Amazing

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's...

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we were the ones talking about it

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I was telling someone that there's nothing better

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: better than seeing Adam Sandler

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: be great in the dramatic role

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like he...

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: When he nails it, he really really nails

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you gonna movie he cares about

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But even more so in the dramatic role

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: not necessarily a comedy

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like with the Myrwitz stories

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that know a bomb back movie from a couple years ago

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that he was in

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't...

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's a single

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a Sandler comedy that I would say

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I like...

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, but anyways

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Scourge, let Joe Hans

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she still retains that sort of young innocence

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: in this movie

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: She was still pretty young at this time

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: but also that's just sort of her character

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: as well

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She's supposed to be like

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what's the word I'm looking for

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I was like, foil

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She's not a foil

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of a bill, Mary

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But like, just sort of a support

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_02]: character

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, while also still being

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: having a main role

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: in the movie

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: They're both support characters to each other

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: They sort of

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: as you mentioned

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Lead opposite lives

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So she sort of there

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to refresh his life

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's there to sort of

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: focus hers

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I would agree

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: the scene where she's

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: alone in Kyoto

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: The words like a montage of her traveling

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: is very moving

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and again, that has that

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Sofia Copola

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: existential

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: relaxing

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: feel to it

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's...

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: She's a very effortless director

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think in terms of her shooting style

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: which I think really adds to it

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that Bill Murray

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: She and Bill Murray have very good chemistry together

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: which, again, it's a very uncommon

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship similar to Ghost World

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: with Thor Birch and Steve Buschemian

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it just has that

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: lingering

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: shot on Scarlett Johansson

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: so much on her face

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and how she's just reacting to

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: to other people

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and to the world

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and is trying to find a focus point

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: no matter whether it's with people

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: or whether it's with an idea

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: or certain part of culture

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_01]: direction really

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: works in that respect

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's very simple

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: as with many Sofia Copola movies

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: it's style over substance

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: in this case which is a criticism

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: often with her

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it has just enough of

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: both sides to work

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_02]: would you say you have a favorite scene

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and this movie

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the scene

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I do like the very end

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: scene where they leave each other

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and then also

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I think similar to what I was talking about

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: earlier at the scene where

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: they're on the bed together

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and just talking about

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlett Johansson is asking

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: if life gets easier

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: or if marriage

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: gets easier over time

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: because Bill Murray is

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess has an X Y for a wife

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_01]: who's very much on her way out

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: of the relationship

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and how she's

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: desperate for guidance

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_01]: but Bill Murray is like

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: not the best person to ask

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to that because he has no idea what to do with the rest of his life

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and so those scenes I think that

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: are so

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: subdued

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: but are very

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: thought-provoking

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and then also I really like the scene where

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: the Giovanni Rebisi

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: encounters

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and on a fairs I guess

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: is how he say it

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: whose this very ditsy actress

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were friends back years ago

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing in

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlett Johansson is just like

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: so completely aware of their chemistry

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_01]: or their flirty chemistry that she's kind of

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: rolling her eyes

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and is even more

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: ready to be out of that relationship

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: because clearly he does not care about her at all

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's so easily impressionable with

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and engaged

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: by other things other than her

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: so there are a lot of standout scenes for me

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: what about you

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I like when they meet

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: in the bar

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and I like the ending as well

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_02]: when you

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: audience

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: sort of just left to imagine

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah what was said

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: which is another Sofia Coppola

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: signature I think

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's a very good movie

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: melancholic

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: it is

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah very much so

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it wouldn't be in my

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: very best of the of the

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: 2000s but it is still I think

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty deserving of it's

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: would it be in your top

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: 100 of

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_02]: actually when they come out on the

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: last decade would it

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: it would be the last two days

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the last two decades

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: top 100

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it would be

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: which I don't know how much that's saying

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: it's 100 movies but

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be in my top 100

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: of that for sure

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: or top 100 of that decade

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe top 50 of the 2000s

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: top 100 of all time

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: no no no no

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: far from that

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: because I actually like

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Marie and a lot of people don't

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_01]: like these two but I actually

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: like Marie and Tuanet

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and the blingering more than this

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: oh that you were

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: saying Marie and I was like

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: not a lot of people like a

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: now they hate it

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: everybody hates it

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but I love this bill.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_01]: My favorites of course.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I need to see Marie and Tuanet

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: it took me a couple of

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: feelings to really enjoy it.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see it just because

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I really like style

[00:35:32] yeah

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: if I go see a movie and it

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: just looks like it's a movie

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's like a movie

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: who cares?

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: who doesn't like style

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: right?

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: did you see his Amazon show

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that he made earlier this year

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: no no no no

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it came out nobody saw it

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember the name of it

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's super, super long

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and it has Miles Teller

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: really?

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: anyways

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: anything else about

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: lost in translation?

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: a good soundtrack

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: well I guess one scene that's a favorite

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_01]: of many people is the karaoke scene

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: where Scarlett Johansson has the pink wig

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Tokyo is a good backdrop

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: oh totally yeah

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah and that does not feel

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: it still feels

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it feels of that era but it works

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: perfectly I think in this case

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: just the look and the sounds

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and Sofia Copa really directs

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and shoots that city well

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's Tokyo is a very like

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: it can be very busy or

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: a very quiet place

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: you know very neon

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and then also with Sofia Copa

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: the cheap

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: really has and most of her movies

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: is showing a female character living in a man's world

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and how they're trying to have their own voice

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and have their own say

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and the version two sides?

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I have yeah

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah that's another favorite of mine

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I like

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_01]: those three more than this

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: not to say that this is bad at all

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: but the version two sides is quite good

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_02]: don't let us walk through here you say that

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah yeah we should have had him on for this

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I was not crazy about the bugiled

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't love that one which is her

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: came out in 20s

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember what year that came out

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: a couple years ago recently

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: at a five

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a four and a half for me

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_01]: let's get on to Don John

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: which came out in 2013

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and is written and directed by Joseph Gordon Levit

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and this was a his first

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_02]: actually didn't know his direct deal

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah this is his first feature debut

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and it stars also stars Joseph Gordon Levit

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and Scarlett Johansson

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Julie and more Toni Danza

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Glean Hedley, Bree Larson

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's about it

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and the synopsis is a new jersey guy

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: dedicated to his family, friends and church

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: develops unrealistic expectations from watching porn

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and works to find happiness and intimacy with his potential true love

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I haven't seen Joseph Gordon Levit recently

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: he's kind of been yeah he has some, I don't know if he's been doing much

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel the same way about Ryan Gosling

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really seen him in a while

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I have to look that up

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I know there's been a Ryan Gosling movie recently

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and but

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: in any ways Don John made 41 million

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: against a bunch of about 4 million

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and so another pretty big hit for sure

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and this one

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah was his debut

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think there was a lot of buzz around that

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think this did kind of predate

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of the other actor turned directors

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: that we've had over the last decade

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he kind of came towards the beginning of the bunch

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think out of all of those this is

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: a good bit better than a lot of the other ones we've seen

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that I both love and kind of dislike the direction

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: it's very

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: aware, self aware

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and it feels curious

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: so to speak it like almost as if he's learning S.E. goes

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: which I'm sure he actually did

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it has a lot of

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: intentional repetition

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of both certain shots and locations

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and how that's the exact same shot

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: over the course of

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: the film like with the gym

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a shot of him walking into the gym

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: or walking into church

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: which again

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: is it's showing a

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: a day

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: through his life over and over

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and so it's wanting to have that repetition

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it always works

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it does occasionally feel a bit tiring

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: in that respect

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: but I still think that

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: there are some good

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: montages

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: even so

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that there is this very enjoyable

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: at least from a man's perspective

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: it has this very self aware

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: bravado

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and masculinity too

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: like macho man

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: which I personally find really funny

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: for the most part

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that all of the sexual humor

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_01]: with Joseph Orn Levitt commenting on how

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: he goes about getting women

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and stuff like that

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like a

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like a much better version

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: of that movie with Jude Law

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Alphine if you've seen that movie

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I have

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like super old

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw it on TV once and I was like

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: what is this? It's like Jude Law

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and you just place this total

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: womanizer

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it breaks the fourth law

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and talks to the camera

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_02]: about like

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_02]: pretty much the same types of things

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's just like was really sleek

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: young, attractive

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: like womanizer

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not very good

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's pretty offensive

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: this movie just sort of reminds me of that

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but like it's but better

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_02]: more sensitive

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and more

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: just

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: good

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and Jude Law

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_02]: pretty funny to see him in a role like that anyway

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, I think that that's one other thing that really took people by

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: surprise with this movie is not only did he direct it

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: so well for

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: a first time director

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: but also the

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: sleazy kind of character that he plays was so unlike

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: his previous roles for a lot of a lot of time

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_02]: he's kind of a golden boy

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, he had just been in

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: dark night

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: rises I guess as Robin

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that never went anywhere

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I think that that was

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: just for me I think that was like wow he actually completely pulled off this

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: new Jersey

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: macho guy

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you know meathead

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: so I think he

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: does very well in the movie and I think the entire cast for the most part is

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_01]: it's very good everything is very heightened and over the top

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: like Scarlett Johansson's accent and all that is very

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: intentionally Barbie doll

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, you know New York

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: New Jersey kind of girl

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it feels like a parody

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah totally

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: there are the scenes where they go to the movies

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's the fake films that they watch the romantic comedies

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: that have

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: chaining Tatum and half away and keep a good ingenier and they're all

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: but they have different names

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and it does manage to create this

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: heightened

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: romantic world

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think very well

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that she

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: scrunch your handson and Joseph Gordon Levit

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_01]: have very very good chemistry

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: probably the most interesting thing about the movie even though it may be a very

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty distinctive

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: black and white

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: black or black gray and white

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think his

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship with Julia and more is also very uncommon and unexpected where she's this

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: more middle-aged woman who has had this

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: family tragedy where her child and her husband have died

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's this

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty lonely woman who helps to

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: bring just a goorn love it out of his playboy

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: mentality and then with Scalot Jo Hanson she's this

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: person who only wants to date a

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: very

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: confidant

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: macho man and by the end of the movie

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you can see how

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: completely close minded she is as opposed to

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph Gordon Levit who grows

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: because the final scene with them is at that

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: cafe and she

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: you know saying don't ever call me again

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: she said you're not able to grow so I could not be

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: with you anymore but of course it's the exact opposite

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and I do think it's very funny I think all of

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: that the sound cues which are occasionally a little much

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_01]: it's almost like Tarantino in that way where

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the editing will coincide with certain

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: pieces of soundtrack or other music cues where he'll look at a girl

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_01]: in a nightclub and there's that like three

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: beat montage of them looking at each other and then they're like

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: grinding on the dance floor stuff like that as hilarious

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think really

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: shows the

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_01]: the direction how strong it is for for this film

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that even though it doesn't always work

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: it makes it memorable I think I think the

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really seen a lot of other movies

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: done in this way so or many other romantic

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_01]: comedies you know yeah yeah I think

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and also despite all of the very over the top

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: writing and dynamics I think that there is still a very

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: emotional sincerity

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: to it and where Joseph Gordon Levit

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: is kind of finding a way to

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: mature and really fall in love with someone as opposed to just having sex

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and however at the same time

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the movie doesn't entirely present a

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: realistic way to go about doing that for someone because it's

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: essentially showing here if you're you have this addiction

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_01]: just in the in the in the chance you meet a woman who's completely ready to

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: change you or help help you evolve

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: there's not really answers for that and so maybe by the end

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a little frustrating but again it's a romantic comedy so I'm not going to totally

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: fault it for that

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think everything with

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: just of Gordon Levit trying to

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: get with Scarlett Johansson as hilarious all

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff at the night club and on their on their dates is very enjoyable

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and especially if you're a guy

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: it's and I don't mean that really in the bad way but

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think if you're a guy you might like it even more

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: than just the average viewer I don't know

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't talked to many women who have seen this

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe they find it relatable

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe so yeah maybe

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah not not say that that would be the case

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it's just I think it seems like more of a guy movie to me

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think yeah but especially with the

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the use of porn and everything in the movie which

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: apparently when it showed it at premiered at Sundance

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: it was had more graphic content and apparently it was

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: cut down a little bit for the theaters so I don't know how much

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: further it went with showing porn graphic videos

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's still for a mainstream movie it's pretty

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there's like an uncut version out there somewhere

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: but even for a mainstream film

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: it's pretty graphic at times

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: so who knew why he wanted to make this

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know yeah yeah it's a really interesting part of

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: his career I think and I would love to see him do more

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah like you said um

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: he's probably one of the first to do it

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah um you know what's got

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_02]: like Natalie Portman

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and we had we had Brie Larson last year as well

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: as well via wild

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so at the time I go in the theater

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: oh the the Regal theater

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: director of book smart yeah

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: also I think that

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: one one scene that is effective at

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think and very again it showcases that

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_01]: emotion that real sincerity

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: sincerity that the movie has

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: is the same where

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Don John is looking at

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: or he sees

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Julian more

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: reading the poetry or the novel

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: outside of the night school

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's just kind of sitting there

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_01]: crying and he's just

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of watching her

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: from a

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: far but it's a very moving

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_01]: moment and you can just see

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly the kind of person that she is

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: this emotional

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_01]: vulnerable person

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that it's a little quiet

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_01]: moments like that that are enjoyable

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that the whole family

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: dynamic is also pretty entertaining

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: with Tony Danza who's this even more

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: of a macho meathead than

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: his son

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's worth watching if you like

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: uncommon or different kinds of

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: romantic comedies and I think that it's a good showcase for the actors as well. All being in pretty different roles and what they're used to being seen and you know.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And and also the scores by

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Nathan Johnson who just did knives out as well. Did the score for knives out which it's a fun score because it's again, it's very music cue at

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: QE you know it's all feeding certain bits of editing and direction so

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: there uh it's not so sequel to that knives out. I saw that yeah. Also didn't you um

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: this is unrelated or it's related to composers didn't you post an article or

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_02]: it about Hans Zimmer. Yes he's uh he's taking over for

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_01]: no time to die the James Monthon. That's right yeah

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Hans Zimmer. Classic. He's a guy he sees he's the best

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: apologize to the viewers that I just sound

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_02]: listeners completely that we're looking here the listeners that I just sound completely dead right now. Still just trying to get over to being sick

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that's something and tired. It's all good. Sound being real

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you know. You're you're you're being in the air for you know. You're all good.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh yeah I uh it's I don't know if there's too much else to say but it's I think it's kind of underrated. I would go as far to say.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know I think it's like cult status. I wouldn't say it's a cult film

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think that it's it seemed to get a lot of buzz when it came out but I'd never really hear anybody talking about it

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: so I don't know what how people feel about it but I'm glad we're talking about it so we can get it

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: get the word out. I remember when it was out I just remember that time hearing about it

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_02]: you know I never watched it. I watched it now. Yeah but um yeah yeah

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think all of the all of the porn commentary is also pretty funny just because it's he's so

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: completely lost in his own head and in this fantasy world that but it's also grounded in a

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_02]: in a very masculine sincerity. Yeah outside probably just seems like a loser. Yeah.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah totally I mean of course that's the whole point is where when he's out in at the night club

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like the cream of the crop but when he's back in his own bed he's like a total loser.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That really works as blunt as it may be in terms of how it's shown I think it works

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: from the kind of movie that it is. It's not trying to be an epic drama or something it's just a

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_01]: 90 minute comedy. Yeah um the porn addiction is real. Yeah I mean he's tackling a completely

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_01]: or a very modern addiction so it's it's pretty serious addiction too. Yeah and so I appreciate him

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: for for tackling it. Dimitals intimacy. Yeah yeah for sure just watch a shame. Oh my go fast

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that's the dramatic version of this. You remember that guy from oh no actually you weren't

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_02]: for some reason I was thinking this was the cover of the class but this was a a screenwriting

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_02]: class I took at UNCG after I believe you graduated a guy we were supposed to be reading

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_02]: scenes from a movie that we liked or something right showing showing the clip and then like reading

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_02]: the script and breaking down what that scene meant or what it's purpose was for the movie.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a bad feeling about this kind of shame and he did um it's just a very graphic

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: scene like dialogue wise. I don't think he showed any of the sex yeah but it wasn't it wasn't a scene

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_02]: with you know naked Michael Fasspender but it was it was like he was talking to a girl in a bar

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: something and it was just extremely graphic and everyone was very uncomfortable. Well this is

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_02]: pointing to showing it I think he just said he loves that movie or something else interesting

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting movie to yeah love. I mean I don't know if it says more about me or not but I mean

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I quote unquote love the movie I think it's from a cinematic standpoint it's yeah I mean it's not

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: 17 it has pretty graphic content and so that's is by far my favorite of Steve McQueen's and

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: one of my favorites of Michael Fasspender for sure and I think that is actually a pretty interesting

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_01]: companion piece to this movie even though they are pretty vastly different. I think

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: that one really shows like the a person truly unraveling or is this one has a more

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_01]: comedic self-aware feeling to it and that one is by no means a feel good it's like you're pretty

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: it's pretty sad yeah pretty sad yeah across the board but effectively effectively so

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: what was so funny about this guy showing this was he showed the clip and then he read

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the scene off the paper like the script he had printed out so then we just got to hear him

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: read all this dialogue oh great that must have been a pretty uncomfortable

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: class yeah yeah especially for the teacher maybe I would be thinking there was one

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_02]: assignment we were all assigned a random movie to figure out what it's three act structure or

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever was and you know blah blah blah and my group which I think Jenna was in maybe

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really remember but it was the movie sideways oh yeah great film yeah cool I'm a favorite

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: movie in the world but you know one of Alexander Payne's better movies I would say

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Paul G Mony yeah downsizing I hear wasn't great no that was not yeah not great

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but hey everybody's got a couple of moments so but no I like Alexander Payne I don't love

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Nebraska as many as much as some people do but that's another good one all right well at a five

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd give this surprisingly I think a three all right it's a four for me

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well I guess we can move on to her which also came out in 2013 about a month later after

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Don John and it is written and directed by Spike Jones and it stars

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: walking Phoenix girl at Johansson of course Kristen Wigg Rooney Mara Olivia Wilde

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Brian Johnson Spike Jones very briefly Chris Pratt in a small role

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and the synopsis is in a near future a lonely writer develops an unlikely relationship with an

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_01]: operating system designed to meet his every need you um you catch the golden gloves I didn't

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I I saw updates and I or news pieces I did not watch it though walking Phoenix had a pretty wild

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_01]: speech that's what I heard yeah very I mean fittingly so yeah but um four movies in a row where

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Johansson sort of plays a supporting woman in a very male centric yeah world mm-hmm that's

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that's uh yeah but she does break out of that eventually oh for sure yeah yeah her latest her later work

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in most recent work is very independent mm-hmm yeah which we've we've talked about a lot on the show

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we've yeah done a handful of movies of hers like we were saying earlier anyways

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_01]: this one made 48 million against a $23 million budget so not a big hit but it got pretty

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: high claim across the board and it was on my top 25 of the decade maybe even the top 10 actually

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_01]: so I'm a massive fan of this movie and I don't love Spike Jones totally but I think

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_01]: for whatever reason in this I think it's fantastic I always get him confused as Spike Lee oh yeah

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but yeah very different filmmakers for sure they both make pretty weird movies though I think yeah

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_02]: did Spike Lee make do the right thing yes okay and he did black clansman shy rack

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_01]: did he do a movie with Edward Norton or was that funny yeah he did uh that might be the

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_02]: 25th hour 23rd hour I think so I think that's it I've seen that movie I don't remember anything about

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: it yeah I remember it was definitely Spike Lee movie yeah well this I think is a movie that

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd said at some time on the regular show where it's one of the few movies where when I'm

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: watching it I almost I completely forget that I'm watching a movie because I'm so

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_01]: lost in my mind thinking about the ideas that it brings up and I think it similar to others we've

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: talked about it's pretty narrative lists and it's very much about walking Phoenix going through this

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: dystopian or dystopian world oh and Amy Adams did I don't know if I said that it also starts Amy

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Adams of course and it goes through this world of showing yet another lonely very lonely man

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and who meets this or who gets the the opportunity to have this operating system played by

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlett Johansson and how she says very bright and vibrating soul for lack of a better word

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and it just helps him get a new perspective on life and I think it brings up so many interesting

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: ideas about modern love and and also in some ways addiction to technology and other things like that

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and how that can both help and hurt you and and the modern age and I think one of the most

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting is that that twist towards the end where he realizes that he's not the only one

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: that she's been talking to which is a pretty heartbreaking moment because I think that really

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: comments on modern social media and technology we're on the online dating for sure because

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you could be on on some site and be talking to someone it's like you have the best connection

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: of your whole life and then at the same time on their side they could be talking to 10 different

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: people and you would have no idea exactly and having that exact same level of connection and so I think

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: it just is has so many great ideas that I always love watching it because it just makes me think about

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: so many different things which that doesn't always happen that that much these days so

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so when it came out um I'm a big fan too walking Phoenix is just amazing yeah yes

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's got a Johansson even as a voice I think this brings it this is my second or third favorite

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: performance of hers I think she's amazing in it especially because it is only her voice and

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that so many people who criticize girl Johansson or or who have criticized her I think this is a

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: perfect answer or response to that where it's like not many people could carry at this entire

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: complex performance purely through voice I like stories about AI involving AI and

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: um robots things like that I just think it's interesting you know it's definitely where we're heading

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and there are a lot of interesting stories about it usually more

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: negative than not you know taking over the whole thing yeah there are some positive ones as well

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I mentioned on the show once I saw that movie I am mother oh yeah

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: was an interesting story about robots and AI raising and taking care of a little girl yeah

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: but um yeah this is this is four movies in our own how it would really were about the lonely men

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah it's a lot of uh Skeletor Hansen's early career yeah pretty much hanging around lonely me

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah um I think I think walking Phoenix does a really good job with like just

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: subdued depressed like characters that used to be better or more like happier

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah who of course well known gone through a transition yeah in many ways and now they're sort of just

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: existing yeah um out of great and I feel like it is difficult to talk about Skeletor Hansen's

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: performance in this movie but because she's not there there but as you said I think as of voice even

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: she um she embodies this whole like she she has this whole personality and persona and character

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: has a distant voice yeah and she's not even um if I remember correctly it's she doesn't have like a

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: robot body or anything it's just like a little box or something or like yeah I mean it's not even

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it's not even really that it's she's in the computer I mean he has like a like a Bluetooth kind of thing

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but that that's about it yeah so she doesn't even have like a physical form no no no so and

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: now there is the scene that's that is kind of copied and blade runner 249 where they have the

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and as an armist yeah girlfriend yeah the the stand in woman yeah the hologram but in this it's

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a real person and so that that's another very unexpected idea that it's that's not my favorite part

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: of the movie I think that the first hour or so is where I think I enjoyed the most where you see

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: the flashbacks of Runeemara's and walking phoenix's relationship and of course they're dating

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: in real life now those two um Runeemara and walking yeah and that where you see this one's great

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship crumbling or that has crumbled and then you also have the dynamics with him and

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Amy Adams who's a very grounded wacky but very smart woman and how you see how that friendship

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and then eventual romance blossoms all the while you have this inner monologue so to speak with

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Scarlet Johansson and walking and I think that just watching him go through life especially with how

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: delicately and and subtly the world is built being somewhat near future as the synopsis said but

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: also not being too far away to where you can't really see that happening but in this you could totally

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: see it happening with everybody everybody being on their phones and talking to somebody that's not

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: there you know and I think he he builds the world very well with just a few touches I think and

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: it's just fun to watch Scarlet Johansson's character feed walking phoenix's actions that's just

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: such a cool piece of direction I think and it's very moving I think that when you see

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: the relationship between the two of them and it is moving like it because it was real love

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: at least for him and so you can you can totally relate to having that romance be done

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and all the while being just as happy that he goes back to Amy Adams and they have a true human

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship so it's important yeah it's important not to follow my technology yeah for sure

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and there is the song I guess it's called the moon song in the movie where walking phoenix is playing

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: the ukulele and Scarlet Johansson's voice comes in and yeah they're just a lot of really

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: delicate touches and maybe that I think really add detail and richness to it and I think it's also

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: very funny it's it's wacky but it's funny yeah and I think that the the concept of these letter

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: writers where he's just walking phoenix is sitting there at a desk dictating these love letters to

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: from one cup from one person to another and you know sometimes they're 80 years old and they pay

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: people I came to to write letters for them which I think is a sweet idea and

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: you can see again how close he is to love but not really being able to get it because he's there

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: as he says in the movie they're just other people's letters they're not his and so he's just writing

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: other people's stories for them which could in many ways make him feel even more with drawn and

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: alone yeah yeah I think it's it's again like I said it's it's one of my favorites of the decade

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and just a favorite film of mine I think it just hit me pretty instantly when I saw it in the theater

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's this this they quote unquote sex scene where it fades to black and there's just voices

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: is very ambitious I think it's I don't know if that's my favorite scene in the movie but

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I like it I think it's effective so because I think you buy the romance yeah so I mean

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you definitely buy that he isn't over with her and you buy that the AI is probably programmed to reciprocate

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah totally you know so but I agree about appreciating the message

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: when he does go back to Amy Adams and and who is amazing in this movie Amy Adams

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: sort of wouldn't expect this movie to have a happy ending yeah but I would say that it does

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I would agree and I think that it has this kind of meta idea where

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Amy Adams is this filmmaker and she shows walking Phoenix and her at the time boyfriend

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: who is she's making this movie where she's showing someone sleeping her mother sleeping and it's

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: there's just a long lingering shot of her mother asleep and the boyfriend doesn't really get it

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: but walking does and I think it it almost comments on the movie itself where it's this

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: just the guy sitting there talking to someone you don't see and you could totally see why a lot of

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: people would not like that or would not get it which I know a lot of people who have talked to

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: don't like it but then how the other half could be completely invested it's a film yeah and we also

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: have Olivia Wilde who's the pretty vulnerable skeptical date that he

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: goes with that one nine at just kind of crumbles so quickly but I think she's very good in the

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: movie I think similar to other people we've talked about when she's good she can be really good

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: she just doesn't always pick the best she just doesn't always pick the best projects to show

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that I like her I'm a predator yeah yeah I agree oh wait no that's um Olivia Mon what oh yeah

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: she's the same thing with her though completely she doesn't always pick great roles but I think

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: she's she's great great in the predator yeah my apologies no it's okay it's all good Olivia

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Olivia yeah both have black hair oh yeah um anything else about her I'll tell you why it was

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah yeah yeah um I like the the video game that he's playing with his fingers and there's

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the the character who's like talking at him who's hilarious who was a who was Chris Pratt

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: he's the uh the like secretary guy at the office oh yeah yeah that's right and this is I guess right

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: before he did Jurassic World and other movies like that where he broke out into the the superstar

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: that he is now he was in wanted was he I believe so hmm I don't know if the fact check that

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: but I believe he was uh I remember realizing that again it was pretty funny he was like that office

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: asshole really to James Maca Boy's character oh when you're like hit some with the keyboard

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: no letters are like fuck you oh yeah it's been ages since I've watched that but yeah

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: great movie yeah yeah great movie um yeah hurt amazing yeah all right well it's a heavy five for me

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah five alright well let's get on to Captain America the winner soldier which came out a year later

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: in 2014 and this one is directed by the Russo brothers Anthony and Joe who went on to do civil war

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: as well as Avengers Infinity War and in game and it stars a massive cast along with Scarlet has

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris Evans Samuel L. Jackson Robert Redford Sebastian Stan Anthony Mackie Colby Smolders Frank Grillo

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: haily atwell Toby Jones and a few others as well and the synopsis is as Steve Rogers

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: struggles to embrace his role in the modern world he teams up with a fellow avenger and shield agent

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Black Widow to battle a new threat from history an assassin known as the winner soldier

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: this one is the second Captain America film in the trilogy and it made 714 million against a

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: budget of 170 million and was also pretty well received and I can go ahead and say this is my favorite

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Marvel movie there's a lot of people's favorite yeah it's um and a lot of people say that they think

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: this one is goes against the grain it's kind of formula breaking like um one of the only Marvel

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: movies or one of the first I guess that is a genre film and not yeah it's a comic book movie but

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: it's it's a tall so like a spy thriller yeah you know which is interesting yeah for sure I think yeah

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Evans and Scorlcher has an out of gray yeah I agree um I thought out of all of the huge cast

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: of of the Marvel cinematic universe pairing those two together was just like a great idea

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah um you know they paired her together with Robert and Junior before and that was kind of like

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know with Mark Ruffalo which I also don't really care for yeah but her Chris Evans just like

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I just like two puzzle pieces just fit in together and like whenever they're in interviews

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: together they did an actress on actors yeah yeah I was gonna bring that up I saw that yeah Scorlcher

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Hanson then um I just thought that they had like perfect chemistry in this movie and um I love this movie

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah yeah I agree I think I've talked about it we just recently on the regular show where

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: we were talking about our favorite moments of the 2010s and I brought up this movie because I think

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: the causeway ambush sequence where the winner soldier jumps onto the car and there's that whole

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: sequence I think it's one but is the best action scene Marvel has ever done I think it's such an

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: intense gritty sequence and it's so well directed so well choreographed I think that that when

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: moment comes when I saw it for the first time I was like man this is the best because it's so

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: intense and I think that the especially the hand-to-hand combat towards the end of that sequence

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: is incredible with winner soldier and Captain America and overall I think that there are other

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: great ones like there's the one where you first see the winner soldier and Captain America chases

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: after him through the hallway and then onto the rooftop but does Black Panther show up in this movie?

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: No I think that's a war yeah okay and so I think that the action really elevates but I still think

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a pretty solid espionage thriller it's nothing groundbreaking when it comes to that but

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: it's still pretty solid for a movie like this and I think that this definitely put the

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: or scroll at Johansson and Chris Evans are fantastic together above the other dynamics that she's had

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think she's a perfect Black Widow she has the poise as well as the the mysteriousness

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: tour and I think even from a physical standpoint I think she carries herself well

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: they've um because the Marvel movies have been passed among so many hands um her characters sort of

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: taken on a lot of different forms um the Joss weed indirective vendors yeah she had the

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Russian accent yeah and that faded off into thankfully off into you know the ether and now in this

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: new movie it looks like she's just not having the Russian accent at all but um David Harber

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: is doing a Russian accent and oh god that looks does not look great and what Frank what's

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: her name Francis Pugh Florence Pugh oh yeah her sister also has the Russian accent yeah

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but um that might be interesting just drop it just drop the accent don't need them yeah

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and she went from the right here to the blonde hair the long here to the short hair

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah which I I think her looks I think the design of the character throughout that this MC is very good

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I thought Scarlet J has just had red hair for the longest time but she's not an

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: just blonde yeah and I think Robert Redford is a kind of a cool choice as well I think he's

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty good in it and I think he and Samuel L. Jackson worked together quite well and I think what

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: also the one of the best parts about this movie is it's not overly complicated it's pretty self-contained

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: for the most part aside from a few little tie-ins to other movies but it's very much just with

[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: closed off with its own world and its own story and I think it's pretty quickly past it's not

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the exposition isn't terrible most of the time and I think that it's just it's directed and written

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty fluidly and so it keeps going pretty well and yeah I think one I guess one small

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: issue is I think the third act becomes a little too heavy CG for me and it's a little long as well

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that by by the end you're just kind of ready for it to wrap up but there are still moments in

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: that in that final section that I like and also we haven't talked about I think not only the

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: winner soldier but I think Sebastian Stan is one of my favorite parts about the MCU which I know

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe a hot take I know a lot of people don't like Sebastian Stan really in this yeah I

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: just feel like he's not given a lot to do yeah maybe that's why maybe so I still I think the winner

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: soldier is the best villain of the MCU as well I think that the design and Sebastian Stan I think

[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: he has a good when he needs to be ink like intimidating and violent he gets that completely but also

[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: in when there's moments where he is like the scene where he's tied up after the the causeway attack

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's has the electricity shot into him I think that he has that vulnerability to him where

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: he's trying to figure out who Captain America was because he he he knows that he knows him somehow

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: but he he's so lost because of this program that he's been thrown into and I yeah I like him a lot

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and I don't think he gets enough credit for making that character very memorable and it's a and he

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris Evans are very good together in terms of chemistry so yeah yeah yeah and again I think it's

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: it's if I had to choose one Marvel movie to watch it would be this one I think and I also I think

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the opening ambush on the ship is also very good where he Captain America's saving those

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: agents I think that that's a cool sequence as well we're gonna we gotta talk about that elevator

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: flight scene oh yeah that's another good one it loves that yeah yeah and the remiss now it's

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: it's directed in a way that feels different from what had come before and for the most part

[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: even the other Russo Brothers films it feels pretty unlike those it's it's very gritty and

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: or as gritty as it can be for a movie like this you know a PG-13 comic book movie

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: hmm yeah it's it's worth watching if you haven't seen it yet you know even if you and it might

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: also be a good opening point for people who may not be super familiar with comic book movies or

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: or may not be a huge fan of it because there's not really a lot of superhero moments in it you know

[01:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: it's pretty subdued when it comes to that a lot of the time and yeah it's it's a great movie Jacob

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: great movie yeah yeah yeah this all right well um anything else no all right well I guess we can

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: get on to our last movie oh it's a five it's a five for me yeah a five cool thank you for that

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: good catch and yeah let's get into our the last film which is Lucy and this one also came out

[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: in 2014 about a month or two later and it's written and directed by Luke Person who also did

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Valerian in the city of a thousand planets that we talked about a couple months ago

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: look at me any yet he did the fifth element uh Leon the professional

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: love him the key to and last year he did Anna very interesting career very

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and it stars um Scarlett Johansson Morgan Freeman um min sick toy um that's about it

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and uh the synopsis is a woman accidentally caught an adarc deal turns the tables on her

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: chapters and transforms into a merciless warrior evolved beyond human logic yeah

[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: similar to the Bradley Cooper movie limitless yeah and yeah and Lucy made 463 million

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: against the budget of 40 million so a big hit for sure's an an her career because people

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: people think this movie is terrible a lot of people do it got okay reviews actually I love this movie

[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: really yeah okay do tell on ironically okay do tell i just think it's so preposterous

[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I like dumb things like when things are just so over the top preposterous ludicrous ridiculous

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: dumb stupid a lot of it yeah i who doesn't right just i i can't get enough of it you know that's

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: why i love you know i love um a lot of different like enemies and uh just the Japanese are

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: great at doing that just making just ridiculously over the top completely dumb just like what

[01:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the world is happening right and i love that yeah i love that i my my friend and i where we're just

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: constantly like like we like we we we love that like i just i don't yeah like when we went to see

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: then the newest predator we were like this is just ridiculous like we love it because it's just so

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: out of left field yeah you know and and most people look at that and they're like that's

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that means it's bad i'm like no that means it's great yeah that's fair yeah you know so i'm the same

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: way a lot of it is an incredible movie my best of the decades jumping straight to the end my

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: favorite scene is when she you know spoilers just turns into a massive just black gooey computer

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah great cinema love great cinema it's just uh the movies like

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: pretty normal up until that point um you know depending on your definition yeah yeah quote and quote

[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: normal it's like you know it doesn't it doesn't really go too far out of the realm of human logic

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and then that just takes it all the way um you just completely loses all logic yeah and it's great

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah i i think i don't like it as much as you i like it i think Luke Bassan has one of the most

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: prolific yet inconsistent careers out of anyone in Hollywood absolutely he right i mean i

[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: guess he wrote the taken movies and he he writes a lot of scripts that he does not yeah he he does

[01:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of scripts that he does not direct and so he does he's constantly working

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: he has a particular set of skills yeah i i think that he does have some great films like

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: i mean we talked about the laryan which i i love and i also love the other ones that i

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: mentioned at the beginning i think that he does however have a ton of pretty terrible movies that

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: he's attached to one way or the other and he repeats himself a lot when it comes to these

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like badass terminator assassin kind of kind of characters but i think in this he manages to be both

[01:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: he manages to be confident in both how smart he thinks it is and also how dumb it is

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: like he's very confident in the the uh sarakon or esk style of lucy but also he's

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: tries to inject like biological history of predators and all this which in some ways is rooted

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: in reality but also within the context of the movies completely ridiculous and she evolves beyond

[01:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and understanding yes i think that with how confidently he directs the character changing into

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: this superhuman person i think is fun for the most part i one thing i cannot stand is when she's

[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: like the the pills are going off inside her and she's like rolling on the ceiling and the wall

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and i cannot stand that like that stuff like that goes too far i think and i think that he also

[01:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: has an issue with bringing up an interesting idea and then throwing it away for action and gore

[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: which again he's he can do that well but i think it does have a few missed opportunities in terms of

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: exploring some interesting ideas however that being said i do love how the movie gets going right off

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: the bat like the first scene she you're in that world it's not really there's no setup

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and so you are not a fan of the ending then the ending is fine i it's not my favorite part of the

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: movie but i think that all of the stuff with like her hair color changing and how she can read

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: people's minds like or like the memory of people is ridiculous but i think within the context of the

[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: movie it's good the science is not there no final means that's um i guess that's like one thing

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: frustrated me about this movie and and limitless you because there was a period of time where

[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: someone somewhere like some scientist claimed this theory of the using the 10% of your brain and

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: then everyone sort of latched onto it but it's like complete pseudo science but um now we've got these two

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: movies about it and tv shows and then i think so tv show i think this is better than limitless really

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah the most is kind of like a comedy yes i mean Bradley Cooper Hollywood's funny man yeah and i

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: do appreciate this one for being r-rated as well was it i thought so pre sure i guess there's

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: some pretty gory stuff yeah and i think that the journey or the one thing that is impressive in

[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: terms of scourlet show handson as i think that the arc of the character is pretty enjoyable to watch

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of her starting out as this very oblivious um vulnerable college girl and then

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: quickly becoming this incredibly confident powerhouse superstar action star and so i think that

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: terms of how her performance evolves is pretty impressive when it comes to her and i think she really

[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: saves it i think if you didn't have the right person in this role it would be a complete disaster

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and uh so i i think she saves it a lot of the time and um yeah and and so it's good she's

[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that the center of attention you know do you watch it last night just earlier today actually

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah fresh off yeah i saw when it was in theaters and everything and in theaters really

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: it had been a while since i had watched it i saw it with a friend like seven years ago whenever

[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever it had come out on streaming or DVD or something when i was in the first couple years of

[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: college and then um i was like i have to show this to everyone yeah showed it's my other friend

[01:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: who i knew would enjoy it so i'd only seen it twice um but i'd watch it again yeah yeah yeah

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: uh it's and it's only about 90 minutes as well so it's it's in and out and um it's also very

[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: for better and for worse i guess you can say it's pretty dense each scene really has

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: wait to it when it comes to the film not to say that that always works but it's still

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: every scene has a purpose i think and it's pretty rich with information and something's happening

[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: one way or the other and the movie feels longer because of that but not really in a bad way

[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like it it has so much to it and so much going on and it's only 90 minutes however i think

[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that it feels closer to like an hour 45 two hours but it's still your glad that you're there

[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: regardless of how ridiculous it may be i think and that really does go back to the confidence of how

[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: he directs it because if it didn't have that you wouldn't take anything seriously i don't think it

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: with in a manner of speaking you know well i hear the talk about Gillian yeah yeah you and i did

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: on the the the bonus show yeah what were we doing that for the uh movie flops the have like

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: work like the the biggest box office bombs we talked about that in Jupiter sending yeah that's right

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_01]: so i i think i think loop besan his films very much come from like the terminator

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and also some of his his films that he started like left him the keta with these these um

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: gungho female heroines he has kind of two modes he has like uh like the yeah like female assassin

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: terminator ask mode and then he has the space Odyssey mode um space opera yeah i and last year

[01:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: he did Anna which is like a very left him the keta film like he he rips off himself is that

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_02]: am i thinking so that was that the movie about um it's a model turn out looked like a tonic bond

[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit yes it's she's up she's the model who becomes an assassin i wanted to see that

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but i kind of just came and went yeah real fast i think you'd like it and he so like like i

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: said he does repeat himself a lot when it comes to this kind of role but it's so such a besan

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: signature that it's okay at least in my mind i don't really mind it all that much and i think in

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: this he doesn't jacked a lot of sci-fi elements which changes it up it's not just a a realistic

[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: spy thriller or something it's he does at least try and bring in new ideas and regardless of how

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: silly they may end up being it's still something different so um beyond the professional yeah um

[01:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it's probably one of his most well liked yeah i would say so i don't know is would you call the

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: fifth element a cult movie or which i would say so yeah yeah um yeah it's it's it's not a movie that

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: i put in high regard but i i still it's it's ambitious to a fault but i i applaud its ambitiousness

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: i just don't think mellow jovey bitch is very good actress she's not amazing no see how she is in

[01:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: monster room oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'd like to see i'd like to see you know but um

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: the johnwick movies have kind of ruined action movies for me i'm just like if it's not as good

[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: as johnwick yeah it's not good get it out of here that's fair it's fair they've set a pretty high bar yeah

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah i think and scroll at your hands and i think this is another role it's not mean she she

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't have as much to do but i think her the work that she brings to it in terms of her performance

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: i think is it's subtle because it's i mean the the style and the action is so

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: front and center but i think if you actually watch her arc it's pretty impressive for a movie like this

[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and while it's not my a favorite of mine uh coming from her it's still a pretty solid fun thriller

[01:37:45] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah cool movie all right well anything else jigger

[01:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: oh oh one thing it'll be in my my top five lows but the scene where she's talking to her mother

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: in the hospital on the phone and she's saying like how i can i can feel everything and like

[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you know i just have this new understanding of life and everything there's this weird

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: scene of her saying i i remember the taste of your milk in my mouth oh yeah it's so unnecessary

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that's like the walking phoenix bathing his mom in joker and you were never really here like it's such

[01:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: a unnecessary moment but uh oh well also one thing he i mean along with these female heroins

[01:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: or these these uh strong heroins he loves women carrying two silenced pistols walking through

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: like a hallway they she she she scrolled to a hand and doesn't in this the girl in Anna does it as

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: well he loves what if it were two silenced pistols uh that's like his signature that's like his

[01:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that's like the foot fetish for trentino he has to have it in every movie yeah

[01:39:12] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a there's a comedian that i i follow that put up his his top ten movies of the next

[01:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: decade okay one of them was uh was quint trentino it's just feet oh god

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_01]: just watch once upon a time in Hollywood and you will see that yeah i think that's probably the most

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: puts it on display the most other than um you know from best aldon which he did not direct but

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: he didn't direct it right didn't remember that he does tell dawn no he didn't he like acts in it

[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah with George Clooney and some of i click sticks your foot and his mouth or something and that's

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: like yeah that's pretty apparent not great not great all right well it's a three and a half

[01:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: really they're gonna have like it before all right i'm surprised it's still high for you though

[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: i mean i i it's entertaining yeah you know can't fault it for that so

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well i guess we can end off with the reviews done we can do our top five

[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: highs and lows okay which is uh pretty much just our top five um top and bottom moments of the

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: movies we talk about if you're new to the show Jacob should we start with highs

[01:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: sure you want to go should i sure probably not going to rank them but here are five highs okay

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Chris Evans and Scarlet Johnson's chemistry in the winter soldier

[01:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Scarlet Johansson's personality and performance in her

[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: um the meeting scene in loss from translation in that the hotel bar

[01:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: sort of the first connection of those characters um i just love the end of Lucy i don't know i just

[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just it's great the black goose great it's just you know it's it's so out there

[01:41:20] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah um and you know i feel like i've almost got one for every movie um so i'll take my last one

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: from from from ghost world when the when they first meet Steve Kishemi where he's drinking the milkshake

[01:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah yeah that's a good scene all right well my number five is the emotional sincerity of Don

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Amunxd all of the very silly comedy and uh over the top nature out of it number four is that

[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the the world building of her just again like we said just very subdued and subtle but very

[01:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: effective um number three the causeway attack in winter soldier number two the ending scene in

[01:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: lost in translation where Scarlet Johansson and Bill Murray say goodbye to each other

[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're just left with so many interesting questions and ideas and the number one

[01:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the Scarlet Johansson's overall diverse performances and character choices especially with black widow

[01:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and her and i'm at her favorite of mine is under the skin but we talked about that on the regular

[01:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: show and probably marriage stories another top one of mine need to get around to that yeah

[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: isn't it just on Netflix it is yeah yeah all right let's uh hit those lows i would say

[01:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: sort of just the overall general datedness of ghost world probably just the the pseudo science

[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: aspect of of Lucy um i love the movie and i love how over the top ridiculous it is but um

[01:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: i feel like it tries too hard to want to make us believe that this could happen yeah something

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: it's almost like the overconfidence yeah yeah it's almost like it's trying to say this is a non-fiction

[01:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: of yours something yeah no um i i'm going to steal one of yours okay uh about that just bizarre

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: line from the hospital scene because i definitely agree yeah and i feel like

[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: i feel like i just have to i have to also thank you put that forward thank you yeah i'm glad

[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: i brought that up um something sort of all encompassing i i don't much care for the fact that

[01:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Scarlet Johansson was sort of put in a lot of roles even in movies we didn't talk about like

[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and who wasn't there um where she's just like a female presence yeah meant to build up

[01:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: lonely men that don't really know i would agree yeah yeah not that she got kind of pitch and

[01:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: hold yeah not that all these movies are bad because of that but it's just like kind of what

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_02]: she just was allowed to sort of branch out more but she did later yeah um yeah if you really look at

[01:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: her career that's really a lot of what it is even with like the black dollia or something like that

[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: even a movie like the island is kind of refreshing because she's like one of the main characters in

[01:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that that action adventure you know yeah and um oh no she's gonna say i think what you brought up earlier

[01:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: i think she has finally been able to break out of that a lot yeah with more straightforward leading roles

[01:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and which we out which is really nice to see so okay and lastly we'll go back to go

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Swirled and talk about um she's a little weak in that movie um i would say not steep

[01:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: be shemmy about say everybody but steep was shemmy is a little subpar so yeah so that will do it for me

[01:45:27] [SPEAKER_01]: number five what you just said i remember the taste of your milk and my mouth line from Lucy not

[01:45:35] [SPEAKER_01]: great just cut that uh Luke please and number four the the unanswered questions or

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: solution to Don John in terms of a man starting with the with this addiction then ending up where he does

[01:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: it's kind of fill in the blanks yourself but it doesn't really present a

[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: irrational solution to that which is not a huge thing but it's un-rewatches it i did kind of think about that

[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: number three this may be a hot take for for you Jacob i don't know or from Marvel fans

[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: i do not like the design of the Falcon and Winner Soldier or at all with a played by Anthony Mackie

[01:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it looks goofy i don't really i don't really like the the design of a lot of

[01:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Marvel's gonna make you know characters to be fair um i think they they try and like i guess they

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: think the original designs look too stupid or something and so they try and or they try and make it

[01:46:36] [SPEAKER_02]: more modern and be like instead of magic it's we're gonna be techy you know like um yeah and uh

[01:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Falcon's kind of robot wings i don't know any much care for um one example

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I had and I had one like pretty good example that was like misterio and spiderman yeah far from home

[01:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and in the comic books he's he just does magic he's a magical person but they made it science

[01:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and then in the movie and they do that with a lot of the characters yeah you know

[01:47:27] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah anyways but i agree yeah uh number two scrawl at your hands and rolling around on the walls

[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and the ceiling in that one scene in Lucy which i just talked about just too goofy i think and

[01:47:40] [SPEAKER_01]: makes it even more ridiculous uh takes the out of it i think and the number one the the dated

[01:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: cynicism in ghost world dated 90s cynicism early 2000s so got it yeah well that's that's about it i think

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Jacob uh i think we might try and do some more of these i like doing these actor profiles like we've done

[01:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: with scrawl at your hands and then decaprio and brielar say um request if we could do another

[01:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: director sure he's in who do you want to see who do you want to tackle i was thinking i know you

[01:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like to keep it to uh more recognizable um people just depends we're not too obscure but

[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: i was thinking of their Edgar Wright or Ben Wheatley oh yeah they both got movies coming up

[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: uh oh yeah that's right yeah they both too and i've been watching a lot of Edgar Wright's movies recently

[01:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and i was just thinking the other day about how i wanted to rewatch some of Ben with these movies

[01:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: because i know hi rise is very divisive oh yeah and free fire i love uh kill list yes

[01:48:49] [SPEAKER_02]: he's got a movie coming up called freak shift and then Edgar Wright has the last night in so

[01:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: ho right yeah yeah i'd be down for that i've been i think Ben Wheatley especially would be

[01:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of a cool choice yeah so it looked as a lot to unpack with Ben Wheatley definitely yeah

[01:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah why be down for that for sure so we can we can figure that out uh all right well yeah

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[01:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: my thanks for taking the time making the drive yeah it's always good to see i'm glad holidays went

[01:49:51] [SPEAKER_01]: well you know i'm glad your feeling better as well yeah all right well i guess podcast of 2020

[01:50:01] [SPEAKER_01]: for me yes yeah yeah yeah yeah you're first yeah all right well um i guess we'll see you next time